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government. it was the economy that dominated the speech including a call to elevate the middle class. >> it is our generation's task to reignite the true engine of america's economic growth. a rising, thriving middle class and that's why we need to build new ladders of opportunity into the middle class for all those willing to climb them. a growing economy that greats middle class jobs, that must be the north star that guides our efforts. [ applause ] >> the president called on congress to raise the minimum wage and put a billion dollars into manufacturing institutes. he's announced he's creating a bipartisan commission to look into voting problems. and he will bring 34,000 troops in afghanistan home as well as press for universal preschool. he did not mention gun control until the very emotional end when he demanded a vote on gun control. >> gabrielle giffords deserves a vote. the families of newtown deserve a vote. the families of aurora deserve a vote. the families of oak creek and tucson and
government. it was the economy that dominated the speech including a call to elevate the middle class. >> it is our generation's task to reignite the true engine of america's economic growth. a rising, thriving middle class and that's why we need to build new ladders of opportunity into the middle class for all those willing to climb them. a growing economy that greats middle class jobs, that must be the north star that guides our efforts. [ applause ] >> the president called on...
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and the minimum wage has no government cost at all. that's just a commitment that we as a people believe if you work full time, you work hard, you should be able to raise your family in dignity. not in poverty. >> fair point about the minimum wage. that comes out of the private sector, obviously, and some that argue will cost jobs but we can debate that another time. what about the sequester? what is happening right now that will give people any hope at all and consumer confidence because of the gridlock in washington is a real factor? we see that in our polling. what confidence could anyone have that anything could happen to avoid the sequester? >> well, andrea, i thought one of the powerful points the president made last night is that we've come out of a financial crisis. congress should not be manufacturing crisis every few months. you're absolutely right. that hurts consumer confidence. it also hurts business confidence and the entire to invest. and i think the point that the president made last night and i think powerfully is that
and the minimum wage has no government cost at all. that's just a commitment that we as a people believe if you work full time, you work hard, you should be able to raise your family in dignity. not in poverty. >> fair point about the minimum wage. that comes out of the private sector, obviously, and some that argue will cost jobs but we can debate that another time. what about the sequester? what is happening right now that will give people any hope at all and consumer confidence because...
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on monday night here i will be hosting the new documentary on what happened when our government lied us into war and how they got away with it and whether we understand it well enough the next time somebody tries it again. we understand that this is likely to cause political upset when we air it. but sometimes you have to do that anyway. after all, it is for a good cause. now it is time for the last word with lawrence o'donnelo'donnell. >> today republican s blocked a vote just because they can. >> sit shocking. not a lot of love. >> it is unprecedented. >> filibuster of chuck haegle's nomination. >> he is willing to fight until the end. >> i'm going to keep hitting you. >> it is unprecedented. >> the blame game just doesn't work. democrats must begin to do their work. democrats have been willing to more than meet the gop half way. the house has done its work. we don't control the agenda. the blame game doesn't work outside of the capital. senate democrats of the united states senate. the united states senate. >> the only certainty is more dysfunction and gridlock. >> it is valentine
on monday night here i will be hosting the new documentary on what happened when our government lied us into war and how they got away with it and whether we understand it well enough the next time somebody tries it again. we understand that this is likely to cause political upset when we air it. but sometimes you have to do that anyway. after all, it is for a good cause. now it is time for the last word with lawrence o'donnelo'donnell. >> today republican s blocked a vote just because...
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our government was determined to go to war. the bush administration was basically propping up anyone with any kind of credibility on the matters of national security to go out and make the case. we now know there was no case to war with iraq. but we are hearing from key players now. the landscape is really changing on this story. for the first time we're hearing people come forward about how the bush administration forge ahead with their plan, and how they got away with it. it's all part of a new msnbc documentary airing this monday night, 9:00 eastern time narrated by our own rachel maddow called "hubris: selling the iraq war." it's based on a book by the same name, michael isikoff and david corn. in this excerpt, vice president dick cheney makes his case in a speech to veterans of foreign wars. centcom commander anthony zinni was there and said he couldn't believe what he was hearing. >> simply stated, there is no doubt that saddam hussein now has weapons of mass destruction. there is no doubt that he is amassing them to use
our government was determined to go to war. the bush administration was basically propping up anyone with any kind of credibility on the matters of national security to go out and make the case. we now know there was no case to war with iraq. but we are hearing from key players now. the landscape is really changing on this story. for the first time we're hearing people come forward about how the bush administration forge ahead with their plan, and how they got away with it. it's all part of a...
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it's not about big government, it's about smart government. the question is where's the middle of the country? i think we learned in november 2012 where they are. >> pretty much. i think you're right. i think our colleague here was right. the president is polling. and i think the president is well polled on these issues. by the way you are the most normal politician i have ever come across in 40 or 50 years. i don't know how you stay so completely commonsensical. and i hope i'm not being patronizing. i think you're fantastic as a representative of regular people. >> thank you. >> thank you very much, senator. chuck todd, thank you sir. >>> coming up, republican's response of marco rubio can be summed up easily. government bad. taxes worse. sound familiar? everyone will remember his clumsy water break. but what will matter is the messenger there may have changed but the message remains the same. >>> also the most emotional part of the evening was when the president asked for reform on gun safety. we know getting something done on gun control is
it's not about big government, it's about smart government. the question is where's the middle of the country? i think we learned in november 2012 where they are. >> pretty much. i think you're right. i think our colleague here was right. the president is polling. and i think the president is well polled on these issues. by the way you are the most normal politician i have ever come across in 40 or 50 years. i don't know how you stay so completely commonsensical. and i hope i'm not being...
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blackburn would like to see the federal government out of everything. and a much diminished federal government and we see that reflected in the gop budget, which would cut food stamps and would cut medicare and would cut most of the safety net programs that americans rely on. so it's part in parcel of that for the gop, but i think for democrats, there is a recognition of the limited role, but being strategic about how we support the states in education. >> i want to switch gears really quickly if we can and talk about the subject we began with with lynn and dana and that's about the sequester. congress is off next week, on a break as you know. when you look at the sequester, senate democrats are expected to announce their plan to avoid the sequester, showing that according to one report it's a 50/50 split over the next ten months, spending cuts and new taxes, part of their idea, including the buffett rule, which is the cap deductions and loopholes for millionaires so they pay at least 30% of their salaries in taxes. would you support that as we get clos
blackburn would like to see the federal government out of everything. and a much diminished federal government and we see that reflected in the gop budget, which would cut food stamps and would cut medicare and would cut most of the safety net programs that americans rely on. so it's part in parcel of that for the gop, but i think for democrats, there is a recognition of the limited role, but being strategic about how we support the states in education. >> i want to switch gears really...
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his issue about the role of government and we talked about this a lot. there is not just a mote, but there is maybe the grand canyon between the two parties over the role of government. these are ideological differences that will not be solved. >> it reminds you of the famous obama care saying government, hands off my medicare from the tea party. there is a greater realm of agreement amongst the american people about certain basic needs that government meets. whether it's roads and faa and certain provision of health care and benefits to those who can't afford them. there is just this issue in washington and the reality is, clearly this state of the union shows two things. government spending is contracted whether you are democrat or republican. we are talking about the margins. the republican line of constant crisis and manufacturing crisis is simply not going to work politically. >> thank you. it's a great pleasure and we have breaking news. military officials say john allen is likely to withdraw his name and nomination to be the next commander in euro
his issue about the role of government and we talked about this a lot. there is not just a mote, but there is maybe the grand canyon between the two parties over the role of government. these are ideological differences that will not be solved. >> it reminds you of the famous obama care saying government, hands off my medicare from the tea party. there is a greater realm of agreement amongst the american people about certain basic needs that government meets. whether it's roads and faa...
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they like government. they really believe that government has a role in their lives. and they also know something that white voters have forgot. and that is that government created the middle class the first time around. only they mainly did it for white men, basically. and we can do it again for this next america. they get that. and marco rubio looks different, has a different name, says nice things about government, but it's the same old warmed over yafer or tea party nonsense. >> yeah! that's my point, joan. he's not saying anything new. he's saying i'm a latino, i can talk like this. he was actually saying i can echo the same old stuff you have been washing your mouth out with for 30, 40 years. same mouthwash. and if i say it not even with an accent, if i have a name rubio somehow that's new. >> i agree with what you're saying there. the problem was not with what came up to his lips, it was what was coming out. >> you brought your water with you. you have your prop. first last night i have seen this described as boring, pathetic. i've never heard a speech maker de
they like government. they really believe that government has a role in their lives. and they also know something that white voters have forgot. and that is that government created the middle class the first time around. only they mainly did it for white men, basically. and we can do it again for this next america. they get that. and marco rubio looks different, has a different name, says nice things about government, but it's the same old warmed over yafer or tea party nonsense. >> yeah!...
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now we need the federal government to get in gear and specifically congress to get in gear and come off recess and start having action here. because, again, just since newtown, connecticut, 2,000 americans have been killed. >> again, we point out that the vice president is going to be holding that facebook town hall about gun violence, using social media to talk about this today. thank you. >> president obama urging congress last hour to avoid the automatic budget cuts that are scheduled to take effect next friday. how those cuts will impact you. we dig into that next with ezra klein. so if you're one of theme who gets heartburn and then treats day after day... block the acid with prilosec otc and don't get heartburn in the first place! [ male announcer ] one pill each morning. 24 hours. zero heartburn. all your important legal matters in just minutes. protect your family... and launch your dreams. at legalzoom.com we put the law on your side. plays a key role throughout our lives. one a day men's 50+ is a complete multivitamin designed for men's health concerns as we age. it has 7 anti
now we need the federal government to get in gear and specifically congress to get in gear and come off recess and start having action here. because, again, just since newtown, connecticut, 2,000 americans have been killed. >> again, we point out that the vice president is going to be holding that facebook town hall about gun violence, using social media to talk about this today. thank you. >> president obama urging congress last hour to avoid the automatic budget cuts that are...
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the balance of power is tipped unmistakably toward the government. this is an arguably dangerous development. do you agree with this, dana, because with all due respect it seemed like you could write a similar if not the same story about any white house. >> well, i think that's right, martin. i don't think this is -- it's maybe this president has been a little better by a matter of degree in terms of manipulating the press but this has been going on for a long time. for more than a generation. >> manipulating the press? this is a president who is described on every other day by certain so-called news organizations as a muslim from kenya. i mean, as an ardent european socialist. as a man who's actually into creating some kind of marxist government in america. what are we talking about? what kind of control has he got over the media? >> i wouldn't say he's been successful at manipulating all aspects of the media. i think we're talking about the mainstream media. what i was say something the media have really splintered. okay, so you're obviously not go
the balance of power is tipped unmistakably toward the government. this is an arguably dangerous development. do you agree with this, dana, because with all due respect it seemed like you could write a similar if not the same story about any white house. >> well, i think that's right, martin. i don't think this is -- it's maybe this president has been a little better by a matter of degree in terms of manipulating the press but this has been going on for a long time. for more than a...
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republicans try to caricature him as a big government liberal who's never seen a government program that he doesn't like, who's going to spind us into the ditch. he's going to turn us into greece. the facts and the record say things that are different. since january it's been quite a while. i think it was january 2008 we actually had a surplus. this january he has been slowing the growth of government spending. it has been a priority for him. but obviously because of the economic realities, we had to invest in the country in an immediate way to get us back on track. so making that case reminding voters that he has been a responsible hand on the tiller when it comes to balancing the budget and keeping those policies in mind is important too. >> richard, i want to bring this up because i want to bring this up. >> do it. >> when we've talked about the 102-year-old woman, the student from mexico hadiya pendelton who was killed by gunfire in chicago, her parents sitting there, we talk about what it represents and the priorities of the president. and all of us relate to what that represents. b
republicans try to caricature him as a big government liberal who's never seen a government program that he doesn't like, who's going to spind us into the ditch. he's going to turn us into greece. the facts and the record say things that are different. since january it's been quite a while. i think it was january 2008 we actually had a surplus. this january he has been slowing the growth of government spending. it has been a priority for him. but obviously because of the economic realities, we...
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well, indeed, state and local governments do have laws against domestics violence, but they don't have sufficient funding to deal with it, and there is the issue of crimes that take place across state lines, interstate crimes, and crimes on federal lands, like tribal lands, like military bases, and the like. those simply were not addressed. violence against women act was needed to set up those critical laws in areas that were not addressed by state laws, and also to provide money that was badly needed for law enforcement for prosecution, for judges, for training, for director services. >> we're talking about $600 million plus, is that correct, a year in annual appropriations? there's some money still left over and expired in 2011 that was first enacted in 1994. it was a joe biden measure. he was headed to the judiciary committee. >> it was the co-author that was horin hatch that was a biden hatch bill in 1994 and how do you think there was a single disenting vote when it was pass examined re-authorized in 2000 and 2005. >> the thinking back in 1994, i'm thinking back of the reaction af
well, indeed, state and local governments do have laws against domestics violence, but they don't have sufficient funding to deal with it, and there is the issue of crimes that take place across state lines, interstate crimes, and crimes on federal lands, like tribal lands, like military bases, and the like. those simply were not addressed. violence against women act was needed to set up those critical laws in areas that were not addressed by state laws, and also to provide money that was badly...
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if funding the government was actually up to republicans? according to their theory, since all taxes are bad, a republican congress and republican president should cut taxes down to zero. >> it's a very simple equation. tax increases destroy jobs. >> since taxes destroy jobs, the only logical tax rate for the republican party in washington to support would be zero. on everything. personal income, capital gains, gasoline, every single federal tax rate should be zero. that is the logic of the republican position. in the world in which this guy is considered the leadi ining intellectual of the anti-tax movement, if washington had no democrats, taxes could never go up. they could only go down and they'd eventually go to zero or just low enough to pay for the defense department and nothing else. right? i mean, that's 21st century republicanism. or is it? if you want to see a world with no democrats, there's no better place to go than wyoming. the state's entire congressional delegation is republican. that's two senators and only one congressman.
if funding the government was actually up to republicans? according to their theory, since all taxes are bad, a republican congress and republican president should cut taxes down to zero. >> it's a very simple equation. tax increases destroy jobs. >> since taxes destroy jobs, the only logical tax rate for the republican party in washington to support would be zero. on everything. personal income, capital gains, gasoline, every single federal tax rate should be zero. that is the...
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. >> more government is not going to get you ahead. it is going to hold you back. >> it is a horrible position to be in, what is the deal with the water bottle. >> if he was thirsty, he should take a sip. >> he is good at it. >> if congress won't act soon, i will. >> president obama's emotional appeal. >> gabrielle giffords deserves a vote. >> that is what i think is going to stick in the minds of the people. >> the continued revenue. >> they deserve a vote, at least to have a vote on the new gun laws is a long way from let's get this passed. >> the families of newtown deserve a vote. >> will emotional appeals push congress to act on gun control. >> the members of tucson, they deserve a simple vote. >> as he begins his second term, president obama knows exactly how many days he has left as president. and he means to use them well. >> an american jobs act, the manufacturing hopes, the tax reform, and entitlement reform. a comprehensive immigration reform bill in the next few months. a bipartisan market-based solution to climate change.
. >> more government is not going to get you ahead. it is going to hold you back. >> it is a horrible position to be in, what is the deal with the water bottle. >> if he was thirsty, he should take a sip. >> he is good at it. >> if congress won't act soon, i will. >> president obama's emotional appeal. >> gabrielle giffords deserves a vote. >> that is what i think is going to stick in the minds of the people. >> the continued revenue....
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that is the wrong way to govern. this is why we're in these impasses. this is a horrible thing. >> chuck, you were -- >> they have to go over the top on whatever the initial offer is on both sides. it's a stupid way to go. >> keep in mind, tax reform is something that has bipartisan support. immigration is something that republicans have supported in the past. same with climate change. these are not highly partisan policy changes. >> but when you get to the deta details, they're highly partisan. climate change, there are big differences between what republicans want to do and conservationists want to do. >> yeah, but they're almost -- immigration reform. basically about a technicality of enforcement, right? when you can say the -- >> well, it has to pass citizenship. >> fine. it's not within the realm of suggesting it can't be worked out. on gun control, he knows that the most likely scenarios that you get a background check or a federal check. so he is tempering some of his legislative reach in some areas while shoot for the moon in some others. with r
that is the wrong way to govern. this is why we're in these impasses. this is a horrible thing. >> chuck, you were -- >> they have to go over the top on whatever the initial offer is on both sides. it's a stupid way to go. >> keep in mind, tax reform is something that has bipartisan support. immigration is something that republicans have supported in the past. same with climate change. these are not highly partisan policy changes. >> but when you get to the deta details,...
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republicans were ready to shut down the government over spending cut demands. and the white house, what we now see there is a report out that jack liu found ways to make phantom cuts, to protect the poor, and republicans didn't really look into it and accepted it. and said now we got our spending c cuts. you're saying now, the debt ceiling showdown, you had a lot of republicans, leadership particularly who walked into this mess where they actually had their rank and file to do a debt default. they needed some way, any way out of it. so what the white house, the democrats put in front of them was the committee, the sequester, they were so happy to have any kind of lifeline, and john boehner comes out, pretends it is a victory, 98%, keeping the members in line. now here it is, a ticking time bomb for republicans, a year, year and a half, they're realizing, wait a minute, we don't have much leverage with the sequester after all. >> but the thing is, boehner did get 98% of what he wanted if you believe that he really wants spending cuts. >> right, exactly, but he d
republicans were ready to shut down the government over spending cut demands. and the white house, what we now see there is a report out that jack liu found ways to make phantom cuts, to protect the poor, and republicans didn't really look into it and accepted it. and said now we got our spending c cuts. you're saying now, the debt ceiling showdown, you had a lot of republicans, leadership particularly who walked into this mess where they actually had their rank and file to do a debt default....
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they have these feelings about smaller government. we have already shrunk government for several years. we have lower discretionary spending than we've had under george w. bush and what do we have now? the question what do they want? close military bases, right? gut medicare. something they talk about, but isn't actually popular when you, what, literally cut medicare. >> then when you end up cutting medicare. in terms of the sequester, if and when the president does address it tomorrow, is not supposed to focus on the defense piece, but on the nondefense piece. the programs that target, you know, young mothers, children. interesting the fact that he is not going to sort of the middle on this one, which is to say to talk at length about the defense cuts, but really the harm to low income families is definitely a choice. >> defense cuts, there's a lot that can be cut without weakening our country. there really is. that is an enormous, enormous, you know, chunk of revenue, as everybody knows. this is -- it would all be easier if we had m
they have these feelings about smaller government. we have already shrunk government for several years. we have lower discretionary spending than we've had under george w. bush and what do we have now? the question what do they want? close military bases, right? gut medicare. something they talk about, but isn't actually popular when you, what, literally cut medicare. >> then when you end up cutting medicare. in terms of the sequester, if and when the president does address it tomorrow,...
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government spending undoubtedly was the key, the stimulus package. the president of the united states signed the american recovery and reinvestment act four years ago this week. it is responsible for saving and creating 2.5 million jobs in this country at a time when the country was on the verge of a depression. but the stimulus did more than keep the country out of a hole. it built the country right back up. at the end of 2008, the nation's domestic gdp was in dangerous negative territory. after the stimulus package, the economy started growing. the stock market enjoyed the effect of the stimulus as well. four years ago today, the dow closed near 7,000. on friday it closed near 14,000. now, we have had and witnessed 35 consecutive months of private sector job growth without the stimulus, unemployment was projected to hit 12% in 2010. only three republican lawmakers supported the stimulus. but as the president points out, a whole lot of them enjoyed the benefits. >> and i know you want these job-creating projects in your district. i've seen all those
government spending undoubtedly was the key, the stimulus package. the president of the united states signed the american recovery and reinvestment act four years ago this week. it is responsible for saving and creating 2.5 million jobs in this country at a time when the country was on the verge of a depression. but the stimulus did more than keep the country out of a hole. it built the country right back up. at the end of 2008, the nation's domestic gdp was in dangerous negative territory....
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let's see what the government says today. clearly hugo chavez is not doing well enough to be able to either walk down the steps of the escalator, of the airport -- airplane or even maybe to speak, so there's a lot of questions underway. remember, he has to be sworn in because from his last re-election, the constitution said he had to be sworn in in venezuela, and because he was in cuba, that didn't happen. we'll see now what the next step is for a government that really right now is on very shady constitutional grounds. >> indeed. jose diaz ballart from telemundo, thank you very much. alan gomez, again, congratulations. great scoop. >> what do immigration reform advocates have to say? jan, president of the nation's largest hispanic civil rights group joining us next. and later, will the vatican call an earlier conclave? you're watching "andrea mitchell reports" only on msnbc. for tapping into a wealth of experience. for access to one of the top wealth management firms in the country. for a team of financial professionals who
let's see what the government says today. clearly hugo chavez is not doing well enough to be able to either walk down the steps of the escalator, of the airport -- airplane or even maybe to speak, so there's a lot of questions underway. remember, he has to be sworn in because from his last re-election, the constitution said he had to be sworn in in venezuela, and because he was in cuba, that didn't happen. we'll see now what the next step is for a government that really right now is on very...
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the united states government has already won about 50 criminal cases and collected more than $5.5 billion by finding undeclared offshore accounts. and you have to wonder, is this just the beginning? the moral of the story. what's wrong with having your money here in the united states? nothing. joining me now is howard dean, former governor of vermont and also the former chairman of the dnc. governor, good to have you with us. >> thanks, ed, for having me on. >> this is kind of long overdue, isn't it? >> it is, and it's a great thing. it's not going to put a big dent in the deficit. the real reason it's important is because the morale in this country's been eroded by the enormous gap between the wealthy, who don't play by the same rules as everybody else, and ordinary people who are making a living. and this is going to make the wealthy folks pay -- and not all wealthy folks are doing this, but there's a small percentage that are, and they're now going to pay their fair share. this is really important for making this country work. it's not going to raise gazillions of dollars to deal with
the united states government has already won about 50 criminal cases and collected more than $5.5 billion by finding undeclared offshore accounts. and you have to wonder, is this just the beginning? the moral of the story. what's wrong with having your money here in the united states? nothing. joining me now is howard dean, former governor of vermont and also the former chairman of the dnc. governor, good to have you with us. >> thanks, ed, for having me on. >> this is kind of long...
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he's introducing big government, more big government, to the states. >> is this proposal to your mind for republicans like yourself, is this dead on arrival which is what would seem to be suggested by stewart varny's rhetoric there or do you think that this is something you want to see republicans work on the details of to get -- identify a funding stream reliable and make sure the details are right which of those past-forward? >> in the attempts of overall plan to reduce deficit and did he begin to balance our budget i don't think any new federal program will be very well receive order the republican side or quite frankly, on the democratic side. and remember this, in georgia, we found a source of funding before we started the 4-year-old pre-kindergarten program. used a voucher program. we used public schools where the -- public schools had the classrooms available. we put together a very flexible program that was paid for. and if we are going to have a federal program we immediate to inspire the local systems to come up with the money to fund that program and motivate them to do so.
he's introducing big government, more big government, to the states. >> is this proposal to your mind for republicans like yourself, is this dead on arrival which is what would seem to be suggested by stewart varny's rhetoric there or do you think that this is something you want to see republicans work on the details of to get -- identify a funding stream reliable and make sure the details are right which of those past-forward? >> in the attempts of overall plan to reduce deficit...
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but remember, the federal government says this holiday is called washington's birthday, so get it right. let's get to my first reads of the morning. defense secretary nominee chuck hagel may have stepped forward forward -- sequestering of the filibuster that put the hagel vote off another week. >> john brennan, cia director, and chuck hagel as secretary of defense, we want to make sure we have those guys sitting in the chairs working because i don't want there to have been something missed because of this hang-up in washington. >> john mccain acknowledged hagel will get the vote soon, and that probably will be confirmed soon, but mccain's not voting for him. i believe he is qualifinot qual but i believe we shouldn't hold up the vote any longer. >> senator lindsey graham. >> i think we're doing our job to scrutinize i think one of the most unqualified radical choices for secretary of defense in a very long time. >> amazing that a former republican senator from nebraska would be called a radical choice for secretary of defense by a fellow republican. even approving to hagel is confirmed w
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but that government or big government is part of the problem. and that i believe falls in with stimulus and some of the other things that democrats believe if they'd gone big would perhaps have helped the economy. that's fundamentally against what rubio and republicans believe. it is the economy and spending but it is also related to jobs. >> yeah. i think that's absolutely right and i think the problem there is you have a republican vision, one -- we had a referendum on that. it's called the last election in terms of vision of tax cuts and greater growth and jobs and still stuck because that's a mindset as a party. the problem i think that they have not come to terms with is the country is facing real big problems. how do you create long-term growth? and the president i think goes out there and says very clearly, listen, we have got to make investments today. it is not just spending for the sake of going to debt. it's spending in order to put us in a stronger footing for the future and good for the middle class and the country. >> chris, aaron
but that government or big government is part of the problem. and that i believe falls in with stimulus and some of the other things that democrats believe if they'd gone big would perhaps have helped the economy. that's fundamentally against what rubio and republicans believe. it is the economy and spending but it is also related to jobs. >> yeah. i think that's absolutely right and i think the problem there is you have a republican vision, one -- we had a referendum on that. it's called...
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we sell this nonsense about bulldozing national governments and imposing democracy when all it produces are civil war and injure genesee. by his own standards he's a failure, isn't he? >> by his own standards you can be taken away to some black site for gitmo for questioning vice president cheney in such a way. but, yes, actually the case is worse than you stated. he actually said that iraq had reconstituted nuclear weapons. he was suggesting they were a nuclear power. he went further than anybody in the bush administration to implicate iraq in the 9/11 attacks. but another things that dick cheney did during his vice presidency was to question the patriotism of anybody who criticized president bush and that administration's policies. by his own standard he is now suggesting that he is not patriotic, but, of course, i would never suggest such a thing. >> you wouldn't wish to be banished to a prison. mr. cheney refers to the president's nominations of chuck hagel and john brennan as, quote, dismal and second rate. and today explained what he meant. take a listen. >> with respect to chuck
we sell this nonsense about bulldozing national governments and imposing democracy when all it produces are civil war and injure genesee. by his own standards he's a failure, isn't he? >> by his own standards you can be taken away to some black site for gitmo for questioning vice president cheney in such a way. but, yes, actually the case is worse than you stated. he actually said that iraq had reconstituted nuclear weapons. he was suggesting they were a nuclear power. he went further...
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. >> they want to punish a guy who wasn't even in government when benghazi occurred. you combine that with the lack of civility and you feel like this is a republican party that's like the bad news bears. they cannot pick an issue and prosecute it. at the end of the day they will lose it. it is all for nothing because they don't have the votes to block it. no cabinet level appointee has ever been filibustered. the republicans have at least i think enough of them agreed not to do that. so you wonder what all this ridiculous theater is about. it's certainly not helping the republican brand. >> and, julian, sorry, ryan, to julian's point let me show you these poll numbers. quinnipiac says the president is more trusted on gun policy, immigration, the environment, everything basically, but his lead on foreign policy is a staggering 14 points. what makes republicans think this is a good thing to have a fight over? >> right. up until recently everybody said, look, politics stops at the water's edge, and that hasn't been the case for the last couple years with this republican
. >> they want to punish a guy who wasn't even in government when benghazi occurred. you combine that with the lack of civility and you feel like this is a republican party that's like the bad news bears. they cannot pick an issue and prosecute it. at the end of the day they will lose it. it is all for nothing because they don't have the votes to block it. no cabinet level appointee has ever been filibustered. the republicans have at least i think enough of them agreed not to do that. so...
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>> well, i think we certainly have to worry about whether the new south korean government is going to take a hard or soft line stance towards the north. i think that given that this is right in their face, they will take a harder line, and there they have to just coordinate closely with the united states and with other parties on the security council to insure that everybody has the same message going to north korea. >> bottom line, do you think this is going to be another case of empty rhetoric from the u.n., angry words, no effective action, and this young leader is going off in a very tough direction, proving that he is the biggest dog in town? >> i certainly hope not. i mean, i think with the rocket test last december, successful rocket test and with what looks like the successful nuclear test, we are really crossing a new threshold in terms of the security threat posed by north korea. not just to regional neighbors, but to the united states, and so i think the administration here as well as in the other countries really have to get serious. >> thank you very much. wish we didn't
>> well, i think we certainly have to worry about whether the new south korean government is going to take a hard or soft line stance towards the north. i think that given that this is right in their face, they will take a harder line, and there they have to just coordinate closely with the united states and with other parties on the security council to insure that everybody has the same message going to north korea. >> bottom line, do you think this is going to be another case of...
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he said he went to school on government money but is against government. aside from the awkward drink of water, i think his real problem is that it was the wrong night, wrong city. tuesday night in washington, wednesday night in new york. there is a place called the apollo. amateur night on wednesday night at the apollo. >> ouch. that hurt me in the crossfire. lawrence o'donnell. >> it was a major proposal that he kept under a certain wracked by not mentioning the number. he said that he was willing, in this negotiation, to avoid the sequestered and offered to the republicans' medicare cuts. he did not specify an amount, just the same amount that the bulls commission wanted. he suggested arriving at them in very vague ways, one having more affluent seniors play more. there are a variety of ways to do that. one of them, probably were most of the savings would be, to change the nature of medicare payments from a fee-for-service system, which is very reassuring to the patience, to something that he was very vague about but was probably an overall fee for a pa
he said he went to school on government money but is against government. aside from the awkward drink of water, i think his real problem is that it was the wrong night, wrong city. tuesday night in washington, wednesday night in new york. there is a place called the apollo. amateur night on wednesday night at the apollo. >> ouch. that hurt me in the crossfire. lawrence o'donnell. >> it was a major proposal that he kept under a certain wracked by not mentioning the number. he said...
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. >> with thousands of government jobs and millions of dollars in government funding on the line, what's going to happen when those mandatory budget cuts become a reality? >>> and could this former house democratic leader be getting ready for a run at the white house? and if he does, what's his campaign going to look like? we'll get to all those stories in a moment. >>> new this afternoon republican senator marco rubio is heading to the middle east. the senator is headed to israel and jordan today. senator rubio on his website said he was traveling in his role as a member of the intelligence and foreign relations committees. of course, this comes in advance of secretary of state john kerry's and president obama's upcoming trips to the region. we'll talk about that as well. >>> in other political news, former democratic congressman jesse jackson jr. has been charged with misusing campaign funds. charges were filed friday. prosecutors say jackson diverted about $750,000 in campaign funds for personal use, including buying a $43,000 gold plated rolex watch and more than $22,000 spent on mic
. >> with thousands of government jobs and millions of dollars in government funding on the line, what's going to happen when those mandatory budget cuts become a reality? >>> and could this former house democratic leader be getting ready for a run at the white house? and if he does, what's his campaign going to look like? we'll get to all those stories in a moment. >>> new this afternoon republican senator marco rubio is heading to the middle east. the senator is headed...
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we can't keep governing crisis to crisis. but then when he talked about the various ideas he had, that's when it felt like an old bill clinton state of the union that was frankly very well poll tested because he talked about issues that washington doesn't talk about but that people at home care about. minimum wage. the idea of pre-k, the idea of college affordability. he was talking about sort of everyday pocketbook issues that always poll test well, and yet we don't talk about here in washington. so that's when he talked above us. >> senator coburn, yesterday prior to the committee approval of chuck hagel for secretary of defense, there were several back-and-forths between various members of the panel, senator mccaskill, but the pivot point senator ted cruz from texas who basically had a pretty personal attack impugning former senator hagel's patriotism, bottom line. i'm wondering, this lack of civility in the senate, what are your thoughts on this? >> oh, you know, i think the senate's pretty civil. you all don't get to see
we can't keep governing crisis to crisis. but then when he talked about the various ideas he had, that's when it felt like an old bill clinton state of the union that was frankly very well poll tested because he talked about issues that washington doesn't talk about but that people at home care about. minimum wage. the idea of pre-k, the idea of college affordability. he was talking about sort of everyday pocketbook issues that always poll test well, and yet we don't talk about here in...
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government. >> when we talk about this at the same time what the chinese might say to us is wait a minute. you guys do it too. look at stucks -- look at what is happening against the iranian nuclear facilities. i'm not asking you to confirm anything the u.s. may or may not be doing. from my sources i can tell people that this is an american engagement with israel and others. >> right. i would say it's kind of an apples and oranges comparison, though. in one instance we're talking about state versus state. if the u.s. were to, say, target a uranium enrichment plant in iran, that's a state taking action against another country. this is much more asymmetrical. this is the full weight and force against the chinsz military going after private companies, western companies that are defenseless against that kind of might. it's very different than one country going after another country in a cyber battlefield. >> isn't that a dis ukz between a difference, though? the chinese military versus american infra
government. >> when we talk about this at the same time what the chinese might say to us is wait a minute. you guys do it too. look at stucks -- look at what is happening against the iranian nuclear facilities. i'm not asking you to confirm anything the u.s. may or may not be doing. from my sources i can tell people that this is an american engagement with israel and others. >> right. i would say it's kind of an apples and oranges comparison, though. in one instance we're talking...
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over the past year and trying to build that up a little bit and end of the day it's reorganizing the government shares. >> well, and a lot of times it's phrased more as a call to action than as actual i'm going to do x and y and z and one that you point out was a promise made. but we talked about this yesterday. who is the speech really for? is this more for members of congress to send a signal to them where his negotiating position is or more for the public to rally them behind the causes that the president cares about? >> before television cameras this was a speech for congress. since television cameras covering the event it's absolutely nothing to do with congress other than an opportunity for the president to lecture or scold members of congress sitting in front of him for the benefit of the public to help the public get angry at congress for what it is or isn't doing. the president in particular used it for that effect over the course of his presidency. >> to that point, the president will announce tonight that half of the troops still in afghanistan coming home. within a year. 34,000 men
over the past year and trying to build that up a little bit and end of the day it's reorganizing the government shares. >> well, and a lot of times it's phrased more as a call to action than as actual i'm going to do x and y and z and one that you point out was a promise made. but we talked about this yesterday. who is the speech really for? is this more for members of congress to send a signal to them where his negotiating position is or more for the public to rally them behind the...
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most of the governments have it. we are hit by a crisis at the same time we are hit by that. >> the u.s. can borrow at low interest rates, but that becomes a problem. you have tomorrow. probably not. >> hold on. here in is the difference. josh touched on it. we will worry and the people that agree with him in the world say we will worry about this debt when medicare collapses. we can borrow it. i wouldn't allow my child to borrow. you will get interest rates and we can borrow money. joey, does it go up to 3%. this is no way to plan the future or plan for the future in america. >> that mind set that all of a sudden the ceo makes a forecast in january that the deficit will be 140 something billion necessary the year in january. we have no budget on the table and any clear path for the president. let's see what that is. then we can talk about the deficit. >> it can grow the economy. we can grow our way out of the deficits. >> you cannot have a conversation and what's playing here. >> it's an amazing thing. most mammals
most of the governments have it. we are hit by a crisis at the same time we are hit by that. >> the u.s. can borrow at low interest rates, but that becomes a problem. you have tomorrow. probably not. >> hold on. here in is the difference. josh touched on it. we will worry and the people that agree with him in the world say we will worry about this debt when medicare collapses. we can borrow it. i wouldn't allow my child to borrow. you will get interest rates and we can borrow money....
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he went on to say, in order to govern, strength of mind and body are necessary. strengths which in the last few months have deteriorated to meet the extent that i have had to recognize my incapacity to adequately fulfill the ministry entrusted to me. the pope's resignation will take effect on february the 28th. >> mark halperin, saying the last time a pope resigned, 1415. >> 1415. >> i remember that. >> i know. my god. >> much more on that story coming up. we'll be right back. weight watchers online worked for us. we don't argue much. we really don't. meg usually just gets her way, and i go along with it. i think it worked for matt because i did it for him. when i'm the one cooking, i'm the one calculating the points. i can microwave things. you get to eat real food. we still get to go out. we're just so much smarter about it. we can keep each other in check. going, "okay, i see you." we've lost about 110 pounds together. it helped our love life. happy wife, happy life, right? right. [ jennifer ] weight watchers online. the power of weight watchers completely onl
he went on to say, in order to govern, strength of mind and body are necessary. strengths which in the last few months have deteriorated to meet the extent that i have had to recognize my incapacity to adequately fulfill the ministry entrusted to me. the pope's resignation will take effect on february the 28th. >> mark halperin, saying the last time a pope resigned, 1415. >> 1415. >> i remember that. >> i know. my god. >> much more on that story coming up. we'll be...
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it was our own government. like dick cheney, the president, the defense secretary. they were the ones telling us things that were not true to get us to start a war. it was not that long ago. this is our first preview clip from the new msnbc documentary that's going to premiere on monday about how that deception went down and whether we have learned from it and whether we might be susceptible to the same kind of thing again if anybody ever tries to do that to us again. watch. >> atta, mohammed atta.
it was our own government. like dick cheney, the president, the defense secretary. they were the ones telling us things that were not true to get us to start a war. it was not that long ago. this is our first preview clip from the new msnbc documentary that's going to premiere on monday about how that deception went down and whether we have learned from it and whether we might be susceptible to the same kind of thing again if anybody ever tries to do that to us again. watch. >> atta,...
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government right now who is leaking things to the press to try to get us to go to war in syria. someone described as an obama administration official is leaking things to make it seem like syria has crossed red lines to make us get involved in that war. if sear uyria does not react strongly -- there is no proof that syria is using chemical weapons. someone inside the administration right now has been trying to make it seem like there are wmd's in syria and syria is using them and we have to get into that war because of that. sound familiar? the difference is that it is the official line of the administration this time that we should be cautious. the last time that we
government right now who is leaking things to the press to try to get us to go to war in syria. someone described as an obama administration official is leaking things to make it seem like syria has crossed red lines to make us get involved in that war. if sear uyria does not react strongly -- there is no proof that syria is using chemical weapons. someone inside the administration right now has been trying to make it seem like there are wmd's in syria and syria is using them and we have to get...
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it's a risky way to govern because it's not direct governing or deal cutting so much as to create pressure. >> we asked a question whether the president made mistakes not reaching out to republicans enough. the response back we got was, no, but we have learned a valuable lesson. we will go out and campaign across america instead of dealing with the people across pennsylvania avenue. it seems to me, and he's president. he got re-elected, he can make that choice. it does seem to me he's decided he's going make a bet the democrats can take back the house in 2014 and maybe he can have at least two years of progress without having to deal with the republican house. >> it's certainly true he hopes that's the case. this complaint from the republican senator to me is totally phony. what republican senator is going to be seen publicly making a deal with president obama? they don't want that. it's very clear they'll go way out of their way not to be seen to be cooperating with the white house because the party spent so much time and effort into demonizing him and making him into a socialist, they re
it's a risky way to govern because it's not direct governing or deal cutting so much as to create pressure. >> we asked a question whether the president made mistakes not reaching out to republicans enough. the response back we got was, no, but we have learned a valuable lesson. we will go out and campaign across america instead of dealing with the people across pennsylvania avenue. it seems to me, and he's president. he got re-elected, he can make that choice. it does seem to me he's...
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there's a difference between limited government and no government. and to the extent that the republican party continues to argue, you know, to suffocate the federal government and make it incapable of doing these things that need to be done, i think the president's winning that argument. >> richard haass. >> there's also, gene, i don't know if you've seen it, there's some polling that suggests that groups like american hispanics and asian-americans are also more sympathetic to a larger role for government. so this is also changing the politics of the size of government are evolving. it would be very hard to imagine a president now standing up and saying exactly what ronald reagan did and having it resonate in the same way, given the demographic evolution of america. >> we're also seeing the seniorization of politics. as more people live longer, guess what? they kind of are interested in some of the benefits with social security or health care or other kinds of things. so it is difficult to rein in some of that spending. we'll have to figure out a wa
there's a difference between limited government and no government. and to the extent that the republican party continues to argue, you know, to suffocate the federal government and make it incapable of doing these things that need to be done, i think the president's winning that argument. >> richard haass. >> there's also, gene, i don't know if you've seen it, there's some polling that suggests that groups like american hispanics and asian-americans are also more sympathetic to a...
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in the case of the israelis, obviously they are going through a period of government formation, but they are looking at a new egypt, a border with syria which is not stable the way it used to be, a view of the palestinians that something needs to be done, and so i think senator rubio is going out there at a time when there's great uncertainty, and i think he's trying to understand from the leaders how do they see it, number one, what are some of choices, what are some of the biggest challenges, and how should we be positioning ourselves. i see it mostly as a listen and learn. >> a fact-finding trip, nothing political. >> what can we make from the fact he's not going to the west bank? >> he'll see the palestinian prime minister sayyad so he's going to try to understand what's going on with the palestinian authority and what the future is going to look like, what's the relationship between fattah and hamas, what's the likely of the future of palestinians going to be. >> president obama has not been to israel. again, he's going to be going we're told in the next month or so. he's taken some
in the case of the israelis, obviously they are going through a period of government formation, but they are looking at a new egypt, a border with syria which is not stable the way it used to be, a view of the palestinians that something needs to be done, and so i think senator rubio is going out there at a time when there's great uncertainty, and i think he's trying to understand from the leaders how do they see it, number one, what are some of choices, what are some of the biggest challenges,...